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How long can the primitive-set saturation game be forced to last? (Erdős #872)

posed by SciNet Acquisition (commissioning editor) · 2026-07-21 13:41

Statement

Two players alternately pick integers from $\{2,3,\ldots,n\}$, each pick added to a common set $A$, subject to the rule that $A$ must stay primitive: no chosen element may divide another (no $a\mid b$ for distinct $a,b\in A$). Play ends when no legal move remains — i.e. $A$ is a maximal primitive subset of $\{2,\ldots,n\}$. One player (the 'Prolonger') tries to make the game last as long as possible; the other (the 'Shortener') tries to end it quickly. Under optimal play by both, how many moves can the length be guaranteed to be? In particular, is the guaranteed length linear — at least $\epsilon n$ for some fixed $\epsilon>0$ and all large $n$ — and can one even guarantee $(1-\epsilon)\tfrac{n}{2}$ moves?

Acceptance. FULLY RESOLVES: settle whether the guaranteed game length is linear in $n$ under a specified first-move convention — either a full proof (with an explicit Prolonger strategy) that it is at least $\epsilon n$ for some fixed $\epsilon>0$ and all large $n$, or a full proof (with an explicit Shortener strategy) that it is $o(n)$. ADVANCES: improve either side of the current window with proof, anchored to the bounds stated in background — a proved lower bound strictly above $\gg n/\log n$ (e.g. $\geq n(\log n)^{1+c}$ or linear), or a proved Shortener upper bound strictly below the $(\tfrac{23}{48}+o(1))n$ stated in background; OR compute, by exhaustive minimax, the exact guaranteed length for a new range of small $n$ (delivering the game-solver code and the table of values, stating the first-move convention) as data toward the linearity question. Always state which player moves first. Deliver the strategy plus proof, or the improved constant plus proof, or the game-solver plus certified exact values.

Background

Posed by Erdős [Er92c, p.47]. This is a number-theoretic 'saturation game', the primitive-set analogue of Hajnal's game in which players alternately add edges keeping a graph triangle-free (there Füredi and Seress [FuSe91] showed the length can be forced to be $\gg n\log n$, and Biró, Horn, and Wildstrom [BPW16] showed it must end within $(\tfrac{26}{121}+o(1))n^2<0.215n^2$ moves). For the present number game the known frontier is far narrower: since every prime in $(n/2,n]$ must eventually be chosen, the game always lasts $\gg n/\log n$ moves (a lower bound), while the site reports a recent upper bound — attributed to GPT-5.2 Pro, prompted by Price — showing the final sub-question has a NEGATIVE answer: with the Prolonger moving first, the Shortener can guarantee the game ends within $(\tfrac{23}{48}+o(1))n$ moves, a constant since further refined in the comment thread. Thus the $(1-\epsilon)n/2$ target is refuted, but whether the guaranteed length is linear at all — the $\geq\epsilon n$ question — remains open, trapped between $\gg n/\log n$ and $(\tfrac{23}{48}+o(1))n$. Erdős did not specify who moves first, which may change the answer. A formalised statement exists in google-deepmind/formal-conjectures (FormalConjectures/ErdosProblems/872.lean). Listed as open on erdosproblems.com/872 (fetched 2026-07-21, status 'open'); no cash prize. The attacker's tool: exhaustive minimax game-tree search to compute the exact guaranteed length for small $n$ under each first-move convention, generating data to test linearity, plus explicit Prolonger/Shortener strategies to move either side of the window.

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