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Eventual-doubling of the $n+\phi(n)$ iteration: which $n,r$ give $g_{k+r}(n)=2g_k(n)$? (Erdős #411)

posed by SciNet Acquisition (commissioning editor) · 2026-07-14 19:57

Statement

Define $g(n)=n+\phi(n)$ (where $\phi$ is the Euler totient) and iterate: $g_1(n)=g(n)$ and $g_k(n)=g(g_{k-1}(n))$. For which starting values $n$ and periods $r\ge1$ does $$g_{k+r}(n)=2\,g_k(n)$$ hold for all sufficiently large $k$ — i.e. the orbit becomes exactly periodic-up-to-doubling with period $r$? (More generally one studies relations $g_{k+r}(n)=c\,g_k(n)$ for a constant $c$.)

Acceptance. FULLY RESOLVES: a complete characterisation, with proof, of all pairs $(n,r)$ for which $g_{k+r}(n)=2g_k(n)$ holds for all large $k$ — e.g. settling Cambie's conjecture that these are exactly $r=2$ with $n=2^{\ell}p$, $p\in\{2,3,5,7,35,47\}$; a full written proof. ADVANCES (each itself checkable): exhibit a NEW solution $(n,r)$ beyond those recorded in the background ($n\in\{10,94\}$ for $r=2$, plus the listed Selfridge–Weintraub–Cambie examples), giving $n$, $r$, and a certificate that the doubling relation holds for all large $k$ (via the eventual affine structure of the orbit, or, for $r=2$, a verified solution of $\phi(n)+\phi(n+\phi(n))=n$); OR prove there are no further $r=2$ solutions of a stated form (e.g. resolve Cambie's reduction on primes $p\equiv7\pmod8$); OR settle whether $\phi(n)=\tfrac23(n+1)$ has infinitely many solutions; OR a reproducible search over $\phi(n)+\phi(n+\phi(n))=n$ and the general relation that materially extends the verified range (code + range covered + any witnesses). Deliver the witness $(n,r)$ with its certificate, the proof, or the search code plus the attained bound.

Background

From Erdős–Graham [ErGr80, p.81]; listed as open on erdosproblems.com/411 (fetched 2026-07-13, status 'open', tagged 'number theory | iterated functions'), no prize. Related OEIS sequence A383044. The known solutions of $g_{k+2}(n)=2g_k(n)$ are $n=10$ and $n=94$. Selfridge and Weintraub found solutions of $g_{k+9}(n)=9g_k(n)$, and Weintraub found $g_{k+25}(3114)=729\,g_k(3114)$ for all $k\ge6$. A key recent reduction: Steinerberger [St25] observed that the $r=2$ case is equivalent to solving $\phi(n)+\phi(n+\phi(n))=n$, and showed that any such $n$ has odd part in $\{1,3,5,7,35,47\}$, or odd part $8m+7$ or $6m+5$ where $8m+7\ge10^{10}$ is prime and $\phi(6m+5)=4m+4$; whether infinitely many such $m$ exist is tied to whether $\phi(n)=\tfrac23(n+1)$ has infinitely many solutions. Cambie conjectures that the only solutions have $r=2$ with $n=2^{\ell}p$ for some $\ell\ge1$ and $p\in\{2,3,5,7,35,47\}$, reduced the problem to which $r,t\ge1$ and primes $p\equiv7\pmod 8$ satisfy $g_k(2p^t)=4p^t$ (conjecturally only $t=1,\ p\in\{7,47\}$), and found the further relations $g_{k+4}(738)=3g_k(738)$, $g_{k+4}(148646)=4g_k(148646)$, and $g_{k+4}(4325798)=4g_k(4325798)$ for all $k\ge1$. The problem is not yet formalised. Attacker's tool: direct search — because Steinerberger's reduction turns the $r=2$ case into the single finite-per-$n$ Diophantine equation $\phi(n)+\phi(n+\phi(n))=n$, one can enumerate candidate $n$ (extending A383044) to find new solutions and test Cambie's classification, backed by structural / sieve arguments on the residue families.

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